Mike Winger Subverts God’s Word

Mike Winger is an example of a subtle minion of the devil sent to sow doubt in the hearts of men about the inerrancy of God’s word. In the video below Winger explains away the passages in the Bible that describe a flat and stationary earth. He uses misleading sophistry just like Elymas before him, whom Paul described as “full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?” Acts 13:10

An example of the perverse handling of God’s word is found at the 41:49 mark of the video. At that point, Winger cites Proverbs 8:27.

“When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth.” (Proverbs 8:27)

Winger cannot address what the passage actually describes, so he simply dismisses it as “a poetic passage” that does not mean what it says.

After that lie, Winger segues to Isaiah 40:22.

“It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:” (Isaiah 40:22)

Winger admits that the passage is a problem for anyone claiming that the earth is a sphere. He then tries to change the meaning of the word circle. He says: “Circle, could it be a sphere?” Next, he wholly dismisses the passage by claiming that God is not talking about the topography of the planet and the passage is “indeterminate” in its meaning. I posted a comment below his video, which he deleted within that day. Winger should be exposed for his deception. I am writing this article so that his perfidy is a matter of record.  My comment that he deleted is as follows:

You are engaging in dismissive sophistry. A good example of that is found at the 42:43 point in the video where you discuss God’s description of the circle of the earth in Isaiah 40:22. But you rather suspiciously do not even acknowledge that a circle is two-dimensional and flat. A circle is not the same as a ball. A circle is a flat plane whose circumference is equidistant from the center. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/circle. When people refer to a ball, they never call it a circle. Can you imagine a player asking his soccer teammate to pass him the “circle?” Nobody confuses a circle with a ball, and you can be sure that God knows the difference.

God describes the earth as a circle (i.e., a flat plane) in the Bible because it is true. “[L]let God be true, but every man a liar.” Romans 3:2. A globe, on the other hand, is a three-dimensional ball. You claim that ancient Hebrews did not have a good word for sphere, so Isaiah used a circle to describe what is really a sphere. That is provably wrong. Isaiah knew the difference between a ball and a circle. He had no problem using a Hebrew word for a ball in Isaiah 22:18. If Isaiah meant ball in Isaiah 40:22, he would have said ball. He did not say ball because the earth is not a ball. You claim that the word circle is “indeterminate.” No, it is not. It is clear. There can be no confusion here. God is stating that the face of the earth is a flat circle and the heavens are spread like a tent over that circle, just as God said in Isaiah 40:22.

Winger thinks that a circle can be a sphere. How can a circle and sphere be the same thing when a sphere is a ball, and a circle is flat? A circle has every point on its perimeter equidistant from the center on the same plane. A circle, by definition, is flat. A sphere, on the other hand, has every point from the center. But those points are NOT on the same plane. A sphere is a ball. A sphere cannot be flat; a sphere cannot be a circle. A sphere and a circle are mutually exclusive shapes. A circle cannot be a sphere, and a sphere cannot be a circle. But that inconvenient fact did Winger from falsely claiming that a circle and a sphere are essentially the same thing.

While Winger mentions Genesis several times in his video, glosses over God’s description of a flat earth. Winger does not address the fact that the account in Genesis can only be interpreted to mean that God created a flat earth. For example, in Genesis 1:2 God moved upon the face of the necessarily flat water. There is simply no other way to interpret that passage but to mean that the earth created by God began as flat water. Read carefully how God describes the water in Genesis 1:2 before moving upon the face of it. God stated that “the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.” (Genesis 1:2) Notice that there was darkness upon the face of the deep. Once again, we have the face of the water (the surface of which can be nothing but flat) described as having a face (i.e., it was and is flat).

A face is the front side of an object or a person’s head. We often talk of the face of a coin, clock, or building. The word face is never used to describe a sphere. A sphere is a round ball and thus cannot have a front; it, therefore, cannot have a face. In conclusion, God did not move upon spherical waters, since a sphere does not have a face, water cannot form a “deep” on the side of a sphere, and water at rest is always flat. God moved upon the face of flat waters.

The Math is Fun website is a mathematics website for students from Kindergarten through 12th grade. It is based upon the New York State Education Curriculum. It is reviewed for accuracy by “Les Bill Gates, Graduate of Oxford University with an Honours degree in Mathematics, and a post-graduate Certificate in Education,” and “David Sevilla, Doctorate in Mathematics.” The Math is Fun website states that a face could be “any of the individual flat surfaces of a solid object.” Thus, because a sphere has no flat surface, a sphere cannot have a face. This is confirmed by the Math is Fun website, which states, in pertinent part, that a sphere has “one surface (not a ‘face’ as it isn’t flat).”

As defined by the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, a face in geometry is “any of the plane surfaces that bound a geometric solid. A cube is a solid with six square faces.” That means that a face in geometry must be a plane (flat) surface. The Merriam-Webster Dictionary further defines Face as “the principal flat surface of a part or object.” The cK-12 education website states that “[a] face is any flat surface.” Since a sphere does not have a flat surface, it has no face. Physicist Atul Kumar Kuthiala, MSc., (Hons.), explains that “[i]n solid geometry a face is understood to be a flat or a planar surface that forms part of the boundary of the solid object under consideration. As such a Sphere has zero faces.” It is clear that in geometry a face must be a flat surface. While a cube has six square faces, a flat, circular plane with water on it has only one face, the face of the water, just as stated in the Bible. That means that when the Bible describes how “the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters” (Genesis 1:2) that completely covered the earth, it is describing a flat surface, not a sphere because a sphere cannot have a face.

Winger, nimbly, avoided any discussion of God’s description in Genesis of “the face of the deep” and God moving “upon the face of the waters.” He knows that bringing that up would make it impossible for him to convincingly argue that God created a spherical earth.  A face in geometry must be a plane (flat) surface. Since a face requires a flat surface, and a sphere does not have a flat surface, a sphere cannot have a face. You simply cannot have the face of flat water over a spherical earth. Thus God could not be moving upon a sphere when he “moved upon the face of the waters” in Genesis 1:2.

For more information about the biblical authority and scientific proof of the true nature of God’s creation, a flat and stationary earth, read The Sphere of Influence.

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8 thoughts on “Mike Winger Subverts God’s Word

  1. Flat earth is obvious to those with “eyes that see, and ears that hear”. Others have been given over to a reprobate mind or are temporarily backsliden, or not yet born again. The truth will ultimately prevail.

  2. By observation we see the earth is flat and by theory they say it’s a sphere. Observation has been theory and theory science. Crazy world.

  3. The fact that he uses that stupid nonsensical image of a disc floating in space with water falling off the edges that not a single flat earther believes as his thumbnail already tells you he’s dishonest and just trying to subvert the truth.

  4. Mike Winger is a Free Will Worshipping Arminian and believes in a false Christ that cannot save anyone unless man cooperates.

  5. This issue has made me sad re: the extent “Christians” will go to deny reality or even look into the subject. At the very least, most admit we have been lied to about the age of the earth and the origins of man being monkeys. You would think the default would be, do not believe people who have lied to you about every other thing or at least investigate it.
    Thank you Ed for being a warrior on this issue. I think God expects us to use a good dictionary to figure out what He means by using certain words to describe things in the Sciriptures, if we are unsure.

    • Because so called Christians are just LAZY! And they do not seek the truth.They have been brainwashed since birth and still trust that man tells just a little bit of truth, then mixed with lies. They go to these LOATHING shed churches where the so-called Pastor is a afraid to tell his congregation about the truth of our circular, enclosed, stationary, Flat Plane.

      You are correct, You would think by default, they would look into it considering the same men tell you we evolved from a Big Bang and that the earth is millions of years old, and then tell you the earth is a spinning wet ball rocket hurling through galaxies unknown. Professed Christians disappoint me as most of them love the world more than they love the truth.

  6. I was also shocked to find that our children’s well-known and popular Christian homeschooling program curriculum, when teaching the kids about what God created on each day of creation, had them memorize this:

    Day 1 – Earth, Space, Time, Light
    Day 2 – Atmosphere
    Day 3 – Dry Land and Plants

    This had nothing to do with the actual biblical account in Genesis. I was seriously appalled and frustrated at how Christians try to fit their indoctrination of space and earth as a planet into God’s Word which clearly gives no place to it.

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